Template:Administration Discussion

CThis template will be used to talk about event happening on the Phineas and Ferb Fanon Wiki. The reason the discussion will take place here instead of the IRC is because of the lack of availbility on the IRC. The reason it is not a forum on the wiki is because it is in our better interest to keep this discussion a secret. Not many people go to this wiki, and less look at the Recent Changes Page.

Let's begin! ....I guess...
Maddyfae: So, anyone else here?

Scuba: Yeah, I was just about to edit when you interrupted. :P

Scuba: When you edit this for the first time, say "Aye."

Maddyfae: Ok..... *sigh* What will we do about TDR? And the more he says, the more my self esteem appears to go down.... Not that he cares. .....

Fadhil: ...wow...loading this page took five minutes...

Maddy: XD So, are we going to discuss, or not?

Scuba: (facepalm) What did I say about "Aye"? I am trying to make this as professional as possible.

Maddyfae: I don't get what the "Aye" thing is all about.

Daisy56: Welcome, good morrow to all. *trying to keep a straight face*

Scuba: Forget it. It was just a word to signify you are officially editing. Where are the others?

AgentGoldfish: Schniddleflap.

Scuba: That was not professional...

Maddyfae: And...? XD

AgentGoldfish: Oh come on, what do you honestly expect? Anyway, as for TDR, I say we have reason to block him. Constant arguing and just overall bitching about life. We're not a self-help site nor a social network. We shouldn't have to deal with this.

Maddyfae: I have to agree.

Scuba: I am still torn on this matter.

Daisy: What's happening at the Fanon with TDR?

Scuba: It's....complicated. Apparantly he has having a bad life, and after Maddyfae removed her support for him as Featured User (because he kept complaining about his life) he turned against her and the Fanon in general. I will bring some evidence ASAP.

Scuba: http://pffanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TotalDramaRox97/6_months http://pffanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TotalDramaRox97/Just_give_me_a_chance_to_explain http://pffanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:TotalDramaRox97/Annoyed_out_of_my_head http://pffanon.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Hall_of_Fame/Archive/June_2011 http://pffanon.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:FossilsDaDaDa#More_Messaging (it used to be larger, but I guess Fossy was tired of so much words and deleted an entire section) There is more, but that is what comes to mind.

Maddyfae: Actually, I took away my support after he took away his on mine, opposed me, and started to hate me.... But those links are definitely a good representation....

Scuba: Point is, TDR's life is screwed up, but he doesn't know the proper way to handle it. Where is Che?

Che: I'm here.

Scuba: Good, you got the email. Any views on the point? The problem being TDR.

TD: I'm heerrreee. Sorry I really had a hard time finding this place.. Anywho I talked to him:

[14:53]  So do you really hate the fanon? Like you wont be in trouble or anything but do you?

[14:53]  sometimes i do

[14:54]  Oh

[14:55]  You guys seem to be tougher on me when i break the rules

[14:55]  You know if you want you and Fossy can talk on the PF-Users wiki

[14:55]  We arent

[14:55]  Like

[14:55]  I dont really see you break rules

[14:56]  Just fighting

[14:56]  Like when Phinabella insults me most people just tell her not to

[14:56]  When i insulted Maddy you guys got reallly mad

[14:57]  Well we really didnt understand why you were mad

[14:57]  And

[14:58]  She was getting really mad because she thought you were done saying stuff about her...

[14:58]  Yeah but no one seemed to care that she was p*ssing me off (Phinebella)

[14:58]  And Phinabella just joins in on the wars. I am not saying shes right but she says stuff right to you. You should let us know if its really bugging you

[14:59] <TDR97> She is extremely rude and Gurgy is encouraging her

[15:00] <Team-Doof> Is she saying stuff outside of the wars?

[15:00] <TDR97> no

[15:01] <Team-Doof> You know, it takes two to tango and whatnot. There really is no winning to these wars because everyone thinks there right. If its really othering you that Phinabella is saying this stuff I'll make her stop but you have to stop the fighting as well (seems fair?)

[15:02] <TDR97> Yeah but she doesnt have to be so rude and Gurgy shouldnt be encouraging this

[15:03] <Team-Doof> I know

[15:06] <Team-Doof> I'll stop them if you stop as well K?

[15:06] <TDR97> Kk

[15:07] <Team-Doof> :D

[15:10] <Team-Doof> So that means no rude comments alright? And if you have any problems with the users (even me) let me know okay? I really dont want you to leave

[15:10] <TDR97> ok

So thats what we talked about. He will stop if they stop but he has to stop too. TD 20:16, June 16, 2011 (UTC)

Scuba: That's not true, we penalized Phinabella the same as we did to him.

Maddyfae: Yes, he's stopped being mean to users, but he's still complaining, he's cussed (with some asterisks) quite a few times, and is partly the reason for exessive blog comments. I'm still going with a possible block.

Daisy: I think he should just leave it all behind. I agree wiht Maddy.

TDR: To block, or not to block?
Maddyfae: I believe we really need to make a decision about this before he gets to out of hand... Again. I'm thinking a good 3 day block would do nicely. Please add your comments on this! A decision needs to be made.

Fadhil: First thing's first. Daisy's still around? Good. Anyways, about the block, I do think he is starting to behave a bit more erratically these days. Lets just watch until he rages again. A block may send him out of the wiki instead.

Scuba: He keeps complaining about how he hates the wiki, and the only reason he is still there is because of Fossy, Tpffan, that Anon who is a regular, and Goth. I am personally more concerned with the reaction of those three users (not tha anon, she was rude to me x_x :P). I don't understand why he doesn't stop with the public shout outs, we have replied to every problem he has, but he still goes on about it. I am starting to think he is seeking attention....

Maddyfae: While I support a block, I have thought about that too. They would certainly freak out if TDR recieves a block. Maybe if we were to calmly explain to them why he's recieving a short block? And whether it's for attention or not (he has plenty.), that's not the way to gain it.

Scuba: A block is a block, no matter how short.

Maddyfae: Yes, of course, but I think a three day block would freak them out a lot less than, let's say, a month, year, permanent block.....

Godly: I fully support blocking him. He was banned from the IRC already for the same behavior he's executing on the wiki.

Daisy: I would've blocked him already.

TD: I say next time any of us see him doing something wrong we get him with a 3 day ban then explain to him what he did on his talkpage. Boom Bam problem solved

Maddyfae: That could work. And he seems to have this cycle of:
 * 1) He get's mad.
 * 2) People tell him to calm down and that he shouldn't be mad about whatever he's mad about.
 * 3) He says no cares about him except, ____, _____, and ______, how he hates this wiki, and how can't believe he ever joined.
 * 4) He finally calms down.
 * 5) He stays calm for 2-3 days. (Sometimes longer.)
 * 6) Then the cycle repeats itself....

And #3 is the blocking period, I'd say, so since he was just mad at Fossy last night, we've got a few days (or maybe more) until he acts up again, for some reason, which, if we go with TD's thing, would be when he gets blocked.

TD: Depending on how bad it is we could get him at #1 next time

Fossy: I should probably point out, I'm 99% certain when he says he hates this wiki, he's only saying it out of anger. He's talking on the canon wiki right now, and he seems to really miss being on there. Just thought I'd point that out.

A second person from the Hunger Games Wikia: I assume somebody will find out my identity eventually,but can I just say That I agree with your decision? I will admit,TDR doesn't complain as much at the HG wikia,but he does act similar to what You all have said. He also has this way of making everything about himself,like he's more important than the other members. And when he does get upset,he complains to us about what you guys do. Now,I know he isn't completely,well,right in the head,but he tends to bother more than just me...and he doesn't understand when people try to tell him what he's doing...

TDR97: I dont intend on making everything about me often times it is empathy not conceitedness

TD: Are you guys admins/rollbacks on this wiki, the P&F wiki, or the fanon? No? Then stay off the page. You HG users have no business being here. Though I do like you second person. We chat sometime. Everyone but the second HG user who has permission (for the time being) by me and the admin/rollbacks must leave and not come back by order of the Queen.

Godly: Need me to break out the royal decree? I'm the official royal decree-er of the entire P&F Fandom, you know. TD: Yes please